It makes no sense to allow a QB to act like he is going to throw the ball, not let it go, then try to pull it back & then drop it in a tucking motion but then get to keep it. Accusing of spying on . On the field, referee Mike Carey ruled it a fumble. Thus, I dont need the BS of Patsies. ", 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, The 'tuck rule' became famous after a New England vs Oakland showdown in 2002, Brady in action during snowy conditions at what became known as the 'Tuck Rule Game'. RAIDERS WILL BE BACK. Your reasoning is flawed because you are obviously a biased patriot fan who enjoyed rodney harrision and his cheap shots. Buy Raiders Tickets. The season had been wild for the Patriots, who began the year 02 after veteran quarterback Drew Bledsoe suffered a sheared blood vessel in his chest[6] in the game against the New York Jets. "I volunteer as tribute!", "I want the audience to recognise you when you're in the arena," says Cinna dreamily. "[11], The Raiders complained extensively that the call was wrong, and that it was made against them because the league had a vendetta against the team, an attitude Oakland quarterback Rich Gannon said was "totally nonsense. That being said, this is the NFL and it is what it is until they change it. The thing that makes no sense is is that the refs had to have been 100% certain that when Brady brought the ball in it did not touch his other hand. [8], This was not the first time the Patriots had seen the tuck rule invoked in the 2001 NFL season. The Rams probably win another title, adding to the legacy of the Greatest Show on Turf. This is referred to as the tuck rule because the ball leaving the quarterback's hands is considered a forward pass even if the quarterback intends not to pass the ball, but instead continues the forward motion to tuck the ball back into his body. But now Pereira works for FOX, not the NFL, and he says that the league needs to ditch the tuck rule. Teams that were the victims of blown calls in big games? Brought into the game in 1999, the 'tuck rule' was controversial from the very beginning. You obviously have watched enough sports to know that there is a such thing called a momentum swing right? May 5, 2022 2:22pm. Allen stated that he heard the Patriots' play call. After he had begun a passing motion, Brady clearly ceased his throwing motion, pulled his right hand down below his shoulder and had touched the ball to his left hand when, coming off the strong side corner blitz, Charles Woodson knocked the ball out of Brady's hands. (GIF) : nfl. whats funny is this is the one rule i actually liked.. its funny because tom brady did it and it became a rule.. and now a fairly lesser popular Qb to say the least has the same thing happen in playoffs and it needs 2 be changed? Updated. Except for two things. Whatever patriot fans. raidernationbaby says: are you still mad because Seymour loosened up your fat schnozz for the Ravens to bust it open like a pinata at a bday party?? That has to be the dumbest rule in the book. In the end JUSTICE prevailed. Stay classyAwesome post (especially like you putting god in your postMind you it was a little g since you are probably a church going man). Im sure its no consolation to the many Raiders fans around the country. Poor teams point to adversity as the reason for their failure. If the ball lands to the side of, or behind the QB, its a fumble / backwards pass. Tuck Rule AKA F@cked Rule because someone always gets F@cked as a result of this rule!! Sometimes you have to look past the ignorant fans and complex rationalizations they come up with and watch the damn play. If it goes against the Raiders, reverse the call on the field. The 2001 AFC Divisional Playoff game between the New England Patriots and the Oakland Raiders, also known as the Tuck Rule Game or the Snow Bowl,[2][3] or sometimes referred to as Snow Bowl 2, took place on January 19, 2002, at Foxboro Stadium in Foxborough, Massachusetts, which was at the time the Patriot's home stadium. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. His career would have taken the same path to greatness. In the aftermath of the Tuck Rule Game, Patriots head coach Bill Belichick told ESPN, "I knew what the ruling should have been because we had dealt with that play a little bit earlier in the year on the other side of it. if i was a raiders fan my bedroom would look like finkels and my mother certainly wouldnt be giving out cookies at the door. The Tuck Rule rules that his pass was incomplete. An incomplete pass stops the clock and prevents the loss of yards from a sack. And since he'll retire after calling half the Pro Bowl later this month, he'll never get the chance. It's not that the tuck rule is bad (that's a whole other thing I'm not gonna go into), it's that the call itself was shit. No . You need to educate yourself before posting here again. How about game winning play by the defense. The ball should not have to be loose in the act of passing for it to be ruled incomplete. The entire play was right in front of Ben Dreith and yet the flag stayed in the pocket. The rule means that a potentially key fumble could now be deemed an incomplete pass. I will never understand why the media will not set this straight. I've heard it as week 2 and also your later game against the Jets. The rule makes sense the way it is, changing it would just create ambiguity. Thirdly and finally, all you raider hacks owe every new englander a thank you! New England ended up advancing into field goal range and an Adam Vinatieri 45-yard field goal sent the game into overtime. "[1] Pereira said the rule came up in games about 12 to 15 times per season and explained that despite its unpopularity, the competition committee had been unable to come up with a better rule. While they were slightly out of field goal range, Brady dropped back to pass and dropped the ball after being hit by Woodson. Gruden made a reference to the Tuck Rule game in his introductory press conference upon his return to the Raiders, turning to former Raiders cornerback Charles Woodson and saying "Brady fumbled that ball". That was the last great Rams team, not matter how their season ended. QBs dont deserve a free pass. - Incomplete pass? It's a ridiculous idea. And, no, he would not have lost his job after coughing the ball up. Later in the quarter, Patriots receiver Troy Brown returned Shane Lechler's 37-yard punt 27 yards to the Patriots 46-yard line. Brady, who recently announced his retirement, is now a seven-time Super Bowl champion who . I would bet my house that the scumbag instructed goose to break gannons arm. We prevented your team (assuming you would have beat the steelers ((big assumption by the way)) ) from embaressing yourselves for two consecutive superbowls. Pereira opined on the tuck rule because it was applied on Sunday, when Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel went back to pass and dropped the ball when he was hit by Baltimores Lardarius Webb. My god. 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He is a PR machine for the NFL and nothing more. Charles Woodson on the blitz knocked the ball from the QB's hand and the Raiders retrieved it, with the on-field decision a fumble and therefore a win for Oakland. Jan 11, 2011 1:09 PM It was the right call. Defies every logic. Them I feel sorry for. With less than two minutes left to play, the Patriots drove the ball down the field. January 16, 2019 10:09 pm PT. If the Raiders were that great how come they couldnt stop the Pats on one of the following plays ? If the player loses possession of the ball during an attempt to bring it back toward his body, or if the player loses possession after he has tucked the ball into his body, it is a fumble. But on replay, Carey said it was an incomplete pass because of the tuck rule. . The Patriots won the toss and took the ball to start overtime. Plain and simple. Once he saw a replay, Coleman quickly reversed his previous ruling, telling ESPN it was an "easy" call. It's been 10 years, but the memory of the "Tuck Rule" game is fresh in some of the participants' minds, writes Greg Garber. By rule, it was not a fumble. It may have taken him a little longer to earn that genius label without that brilliant Super Bowl game plan he devised for the Rams on his resume. It would create fucking chaos 10x a game. Photos (and replay) clearly show Brady with both hands on the ball before its knocked out. elyasm, the arm doesnt even have to be moving forward at the time the ball is knocked out to make it an incomplete pass. The Jets tied the game with a field goal on that drive before going on to win 10-3. But they didnt win. These situations should have been ruled fumbles all alongthe tuck rule has caused unnecessary controversy. Whoever devised the Tuck Rule was drinking more than thier fair share of Scotch that day. Pereira opined on the tuck rule because it was applied on Sunday, when Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel went back to pass and dropped the ball when he was hit by Baltimore's Lardarius Webb. "[16] With seconds left on the clock after the ensuing kickoff, the Raiders decided not to attempt to advance the ball, instead letting it go to overtime. 2 The 'tuck rule' became famous after a New England vs Oakland showdown in 2002 Credit: AFP So if the quarterbacks hand is technically going backwards when the ball is being tucked, and the ball comes out, it should be a fumble. The Raiderswent 10-6 and would have had to go on the road to Pittsburgh against the No. And in Oakland, does Jon Gruden stick around instead of getting traded to Tampa Bay and wining a Super Bowl there? Also the fact that Pereria had to struggle with defending it FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS after the fact before finally COMING CLEAN only goes to prove the point that the Tuck Rule is a BAD rule (sorry Harrisonhits2 your logic above is as bad as usually). I am writing because harrisonhits2 has pissed me off with his idiotic post above. With under a minute remaining in regulation time, Patriots' placekicker Adam Vinatieri kicked a 45-yard field goal to tie the game at 13, sending the game into overtime. The NFL defended the call, but Bruce Allen, who ran the front office for the Raiders at the time of the game, said, "The rule itself doesn't bother me, but the way the rule is written, it was a fumble. It sure looks like it did, or even got really really close, but there's no way you can say it 100% didn't touch it, therefore you couldn't be able to overturn the call. Think it through a little bit more. Both teams struggled in the heavy snowstorm during the first half, combining for the same number of punts as first downs (11) and converting only one of 13 third downs. [17], Up to his retirement at the end of the 2018 season, Coleman officiated 265 more NFL games, including 21 more involving the Patriots, but none involving the Raiders. how many times has the tuck rule been called The Oakland Raiders were playing the New England Patriots, whose quarterback was Tom Brady.